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They want him to look tainted, maybe has conflicts, but if he is the person that newt ginrich said he was is it seems like he would have disclosed this meeting that he had with the president and let them know and make them decide before appointment. we need more information about the meeting. >> it seems politicly to jason's point incomprehensible idea. >> trump may be thinking what's worse is if the investigation goes on and he is in serious legal jeopardy. one marilyns difference between firing come and mueller is there is evidence of potential crime since mule mueller's dismissal -- excuse ...

We are past that. that is a dead, lying story now. we are at a couple dozen contacts, most of them lied about originally that are getting closer and closer to collusion. you can use the word collusion. but contacts that were about something. now, were they about protecting the president and his finances? were they about undermining hillary? were they about directing cambridge analytica or all of the above? we don't know. but what we do know -- and just reminding everyone that the president of the united states and his campaign during the period in which they were trying to be the president of ...

You have -- how many separate narrow investigations could there be under this umbrella of mule mueller. >> ken star had a similar issue, right? >> he had totally different discreet investigations. he had the under lying white water matter, the monica lewinsky matter -- >> he could close one out and still have others open? it is more sbe traited than that. there are three or four