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Republican-controlled majority -- overwhelmingly white counties. they did not find them in fulton county. so this san attack on the ability of black voters to elect the representatives that stand for multicultural democracy. >> let me -- let's go back to brad raffensberger here for a second. you said at the beginning of our conversation that he's been walking back, you know, courageous statements and courageous actions he took during the election. does that have anything or everything to do with his own electoral prospects and trying to keep donald trump from nipping at his behind as he stands...

And toxic for our nation, i think, it's difficult for any of us to grasp. the greatest gift that america has given the world is peaceful transition. we are the oldest functioning democracy. this is a challenge to the essence of democracy itself. you don't -- if you don't believe your president was legally elected you live in an occupied country. you don't live in a democracy. so think about this. 70% of republicans think this. this is what they'll teach their kids. this is not a literal problem that will go away. i think it's the greatest challenge we've had internally since the civil war. >> ...