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To diffuse the tensions, tackle the differences with iran. is it time to acknowledge that that diplomatic effort has failed? well, stephen, what i'd say is diplomacy never ends, even as we are doing other things — and we've always taken several steps against iran, whether it's sanctions, pressure, countering what they're doing in the region and also mobilising the international community — even as we do all that, we had negotiations, indirect negotiations with iran. we've said publicly we're prepared to continue those indirect talks, but we will not hesitate to take other steps to stop ira...

Make that benjamin netanyahu is back in power in israel? so, first, i do have to say, one thing did work in the past. it was pressure, plus a real diplomatic effort, multilateral effort that worked in 2015—16. i will not exclude the fact that that could work again... well, your boss says that's dead. i mean, we don't want to rehash the same argument again... no, but, stephen, stephen, i do have to make a point. he may have said — he said what he said, that's true. he never said diplomacy was dead. he never said that the possibility of an understanding with iran was dead. in fact, we have s...

Well, stephen, what i'd say is diplomacy never ends, even as we are doing other things — and we've always taken several steps against iran, whether it's sanctions, pressure, countering what they're doing in the region and also mobilising the international community — even as we do all that, we had negotiations, indirect negotiations with iran. we've said publicly we're prepared to continue those indirect talks, but we will not hesitate to take other steps to stop iran's aggressive behaviour or to curb its nuclear programme. so, it's not an either/or, it's not diplomacy or the rest. everyth...

Faith, that's a good -- that's -- i applaud that. i think that should be done. not in a bilateral way, i disagree with the format, it shouldn't be the united states and russia deciding european security for europeans, but a broad, multilateral effort, maybe based at the ose. that would be a smart move. to do that in a real way takes two things so far the russians have said they don't want to talk about. one, they want immediate results. they said that, right. it's like a threat if if you don't give us everything today we're not coming back. the united states and nato has certain red lines. the...