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About custody of the children. >> i said, "i'm not going to agree to you having the kids up here and having primary custody on that. going to fight you on this." and, she said, "no, you know, i'm looking to have my boyfriend get rid of you." her boyfriend is a big gun collector. >> reporter: as todd told it, when rachel said that when she threatened to send james white to get rid of him, whatever that meant, he overreacted and punched rachel. >> where did you hit her? >> i hit her right by the face. >> after she had told you basically she was going to have this, her boyfriend take care of you....
>> reporter: service in the military, as so many americans have come to know, can form a person. as it did james white. >> i was a marine for life. it never leaves you. >> reporter: once a marine, always a marine, they say. and james white loved everything about the corps. >> i miss the marine corps very much. >> reporter: though not so much his next job as a mississippi deputy sheriff. what was it you didn't like about it? >> i don't like seeing human suffering on a day to day basis. >> reporter: so, after a failed marriage and with his young daughter in town, he moved back to the place he st...
>> reporter: you will perhaps not be suprrised to hear that james' wife, angry and betrayed, made a phone call to todd winkler. who begged rachel, end it with james. she, in a rush of guilt and shame, agreed. >> she tried to call it off and i tried to call it off. we couldn't stay apart from each other more than two days before we went crazy for each other. >> reporter: how would you try to call it off? what would you do? >> she would say, "i need to work it out with my husband," and i'd say, "i need to work it out with my wife. we can't talk to each other." two days later she'd text me, said,...
You? >> she shared with me that -- todd took her credit cards and maxed them all out and bought a plane and just put her in debt for, like, $45,000. >> reporter: whoa. >> i was, like, "whoa". i'm all, "aren't you freaking out?" and she said, "yeah, but we -- he'll take care of it." >> which, when he thought about it, sounded less like complaining than, maybe boasting. tim, after all, could barely qualify for credit at all. eventually, being on the outside looking in was just too hard. >> i couldn't take it no more. it's, you know -- it was getting harder and harder. >> so he asked her to stop ...