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Congress rather than just a majority of democrats. but we're learning more and more that this was a concerted effort to thwart an election. >> i think i know what you're answers going to be. by the way, murkowski is one of the senators who voted to impeach trump after the insurrection. the timing is curious. are they trying to stop trump or not? >> i think there's two parts to the republican party. one that realizes trump can be a weak candidate in 2024, and the over whogs are in fear of being challenged by trump. there is no reason to believe that donald trump doesn't lead the republican part...

Telling the truth, mcconnell saying, quote, i agree with him. nicholas, let's start with you. congress was your beat. this was not organic, if you will. senator rounds was first asked on a sunday show and he said, look, joe biden won. it's time for republicans to move on. joe biden won fair and square. since then you've seen a half dozen, rounds, mcconnell, murkowski, come out and say the same thing. partly because senator rounds is so well liked among his colleagues, but this feud with trump and mcconnell has gone on for years now. doesn't it seem mcconnell is winning for now? >> it seems tha...

Including permanent absentee voter roll, no excuse mail-in votes and drop off boxes for absentee voting. in a situation where democrats expanded -- that republicans did well. and thereby showing that they are capable of competing and high turnout elections and already contemplating ways of cutting off access to the ballot box. >> well first of all it shows democracy or from should be a bipartisan issue. it used to be a bipartisan issue but it's really just disappointing to see senators like murkowski, collins, and snow, and romney not stepping up on the voting rights act at the federal level. ...

Thereby showing that they are capable of competing and high turnout elections and already contemplating ways of cutting off access to the ballot box. >> well first of all it shows democracy or from should be a bipartisan issue. it used to be a bipartisan issue but it's really just disappointing to see senators like murkowski, collins, and snow, and romney not stepping up on the voting rights act at the federal level. it shouldn't be something that at least moderate republicans fear as we saw in virginia. but also as we do often have to see in the united states is black women coming to the resc...

There was a concentrated effort, and we are learning more, day by day, through this commission. i wish it had been a commission that -- that was wholly sanctioned by the whole congress, rather than -- than just a majority of democrats. but we're learning more and more, that this was a concerted effort to thwart an election. >> now again, maybe again clutching at straws but the fact is the majority of people, republicans, are not saying what senator murkowski is saying. you said there is a truth crisis in the gop. can -- can it ever be turned around, as long as the former president is still the...