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Catherine? >> no it's not an accident. they are clearly a hugely important voting block and that's just the bottom line. everybody is going to be trying to win them, obama is specifically taking these social issues discussions that we're having, a lot of the liberal groups helping out and turning this into the war on women discussions what they want to have. i would say it's over simplifying if you want to go into swing states and talk to women voters about the healthcare law which remains fairly unpopular, 53% or so wanting it repealed. the healthcare numbers go down. when you have the house ...

Precisely the same power as corporations which is the epitome of a balanced decision which is what one would be looking for. megyn: so the unions don't like this, but they benefited from it, and the corporations as well. you know, they have the right to this free speech, in essence, is what the supreme court was looking at, and they said, they do. >> it also added one other power that's extraordinarily important to the unions because they have, they are a ground force. i mean, they work so hard for their candidates. for once they would go only to a union household, now they can canvas and soli...

Afghanistan, pakistan and iraq going on seven years now since 9/11, so believe me, i understand what feeling tired means. but these are the stakes. if we decide to, that we're tired of it, that we don't want to do it anymore, well, the taliban isn't that tired, and al-qaeda badly damaged would be able to regenerate if taliban took the country over again. and we would then have another pre-9/11 situation. megyn, i was in new york on 9/11 stuck in the traffic on the queens borrow bridge, and i watched those two towers come down. the reason i've been in this fight for seven years now is never aga...

This bomb is much biggen than -- bigger than what you're seeing on your screen. this bomb has been wildly successful. it can be flown on a b-52, right? it's gps controlled, therefore, it has pin i can't point accuracy. 20 feet long, and here's the big number, this thing can penetrate 200 feet of earth and concrete before it actually explodes. that's key because intelligence tells us that iran has buried many of its nuclear sites. but not nearly deep enough, those sites, to avoid the m.o.p.. and defense secretary leon panetta was asked about israel possibly attacking iran, and he said this, and...

This time around they have said they expect to spend 400 million -- >> they're going to double it at least. megyn: but they don't want these corporations to do the same, and they want people to boycott them. where's the, you know, why? why is it so objectionable? in their view, i know you don't agree -- >> how do you know? they're a wonderful group of people. megyn: i'm good that way. [laughter] why is it so objectionable in their view for corporations to do the same things unions are doing? >> because to their minds every advantage they can gain -- they've gained one in the citizens united de...