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And as we were about to pack our cameras up we hear what we thought were fireworks up the street. turns out happened three more times. it was gunfire. we saw the muzzle fire from a gun up top of the street. so we were all just kind of ducked down. and once we ducked down we saw a cop was shot right next to us. >> that witness also saying that he saw a muzzle flash, what appeared to be a muzzle flash. so all these details from witnesses which leaves a very curious picture. why would someone at a time like this the city is inching its way toward change. >> and they were supposed to be celebratin...

And back and forth and things had begun to quiet down. officers had begun to left their line although there were still about 30 officers there. we were thinking things were going to break up. there were still maybe 25 to maybe as even as 50 protests but it was quiet and we were thinking it was going to break down. it was shortly after midnight and then we heard these loud noises. three or four very loud pops and i think we all thought it was fireworks at first, at least i did. i didn't recognize it as gunfire, but the commotion, the officers started yelling get down, get down. everyone hit the...

Conference where you just heard the very latest from among others st. louis county police chief jon belmar. i want to bring in jim cavanagh retired special agent in charge for the atf and an msnbc law enforcement analyst. thank you for being with me and, jim, a lot to go over with this press conference. let's talk about what they are talking about as far as a suspect or suspects involved. one of the things that struck me was the fact that they said that it was probably a handgun, that it was about 150 yards away that the officers saw the muzzle flash. what does that tell you? >> well somebody ...

Stumbles to the ground. >> when he was yelling at me to roll over, my blood went cold. that's when i knew i didn't have any time left. i had to go for my gun right then. >> lying flat on his back, mecham quickly pulls out his gun. >> he fired the first shot, and i can still to this day, i can see the muzzle flash. i can smell the smoke. i can hear the boom. i can hear it all. >> but mecham is not hit and begins firing back. >> i know all total i hit him five times. i don't know how many hit him as he was over me and how many struck as he was running away. >> as corporal smith unloads, daniel s...

And this guy, as you point out, is shooting from the shoulder. you know, in movies you see people shooting machine guns off the bottom. it doesn't give you the specific targeting you have when you shoot it from the shoulder. in guy was shooting very methodically. these are not amateurs jim. >> no exactly. jose. you see that when you look at it. i would say, like in that still photograph there, he does not appear to be firing the weapon. there's no muzzle flash. and the collapsable stock is not against his shoulder. again, it looks like a familiarity with carrying a weapon. if you look at the b...