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With the iranians and i think it is -- it has been a mistake and a costly one for the united states. >> the turnover among national security advisers, secretary of state, secretary of defense, this national security team, how much concern does that raise? >> it raises a lot of concern. there has never been much process in the white house in terms of -- in terms ever getting to a good decision on matters. so we see just more of the dysfunction but even the best of circumstances it was chaotic. just to give you one sill administration, that tweet the president sent out purportedly of a photograp...

Things to mess with with the ob presidency but they're focused on that issue and vacuum created by a removal of a focus on that issue at a time there's not just troops deplayoyed but a heavy burden or service is carrying and i don't need to tell you that. what do they need? what needs to be made up based on the deficit from this president and this white house? >> well, you're actually quite right that both the first lady and jill biden were very focused on directly supporting military families. and it's been a huge part of it. somebody earlier mentioned we recruit individual soldiers, we retai...

Look around the world right now, and each one of these things is ratcheting up and you talked about one at the top of the show, an economic slowdown, a global recession on top of all of that, and you've got to say, we could see in the next year this president being tested by multiple crises of his own making and just as you said a moment ago, they don't have the team to handle it in the white house. they don't have the national security process. the president doesn't think he needs advisers. and that's why we're at the edge of something very, very dangerous. >> yeah, it's not just the presiden...

Look around the world right now, and each one of these things is ratcheting up and you talked about one at the top of the show, an economic slowdown, a global recession on top of all of that, and you've got to say, we could see in the next year this president being tested by multiple crises of his own making and just as you said a moment ago, they don't have the team to handle it in the white house. they don't have the national security process. the president doesn't think he needs advisers. and that's why we're at the edge of something very, very dangerous. >> yeah, it's not just the presiden...

Panetta? >> look, leon panetta is a thoughtful and judicial in this thinking. tremendously experienced public serva servant. i think the most important thing panetta said here was the utter breakdown of the national security process. it is simply astonishing. still not confirmed. series of acting secretaries and no one understands what pompeo who is an intelligent person, is up to. there is no set of options that are carefully considered and no inclusion of other u.s. forms of power other than military and no outreach to allies to act in concert with us. this is all mr. trump's impulse of twee...