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It drummers specifically are paying tribute in saying that actually, for them, he was a real icon. he was one they learned from. they wanted follow his technique. what he was doing. follow his technique. what he was doing-— was doing. yes, exactly. you know, musicians _ was doing. yes, exactly. you know, musicians talk - was doing. yes, exactly. you know, musicians talk about | know, musicians talk about restraint which two non—musicians can be this nebulous concept but i think charlie watts embodied it. he always knew when to play, he knew when not to play, which i think a sort of a next ...

You don't do x country, we're going to do y. that is not a quid pro quo. that is a tough negotiation but this smells like something different. they have a long way in my mind to get to impeachment but this does smell like something. >> and is there a crime here potentially? >> at least one. you have the idea of asking a foreign national, the foreign government, a president to interfere with the election the u.s. and everybody talks about high crimes and misdemeanors as a nebulous concept and also in there is bribery and in a sense is asking you to give me something in exchange for an official ...

Government. that is the thing that our founders at the very beginning of our country were most concerned about when it came to foreign influence. >> and thing of value i think is sort of a weird, somewhat nebulous concept. obviously it is flatly illegal and obviously illegal if, you know, a foreign government were to write you a hundred thousand dollars check or you had a bunch of straw donors. >> that would be bad. >> who were foreign cut outs which is actually something someone pled guilty to vis-a-vis the president's inauguration. flatly illegal. does like a bunch of information on your opp...

Barack hussein obama -- >> and a black man. >> it was a huge risk. pundits, primary voters, anyone, are not very good at tell hog is electable. nobody thought donald trump was electable and he's now president. there's one other problem with the nebulous concept of electability. it sometimes is a stand-in for white guy. most presidents in our history, the ones who were elected, were white men. so i think if you're elizabeth warren or gillibrand or cory booker and you are not a traditional -- what seems like the traditional president, which most of them have been white men, then maybe somehow --...

Very well be that they would prefer to talk in context about the entire issue of what they want -- what the fbi wants to talk to them about and what they don't, rather than swatting down individual stories, when i say swatting down, i don't mean any disrespect to ellen, who i know and like with and who i dealt with when i was in d.c. and who is a good reporter. this is as i pointed out over a line of communications that ambassador kislayak had every reason to believe was being intercepted. >> i want to get your reaction, you're a former federal prosecutor. >> this activity seems to be continui...