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Nebulous term. i think it's left many people who may be targets in some way grasping for straws and trying to figure out who they can use to address whatever is coming down the pipeline. you have a storied attorney who may be taking over in that criminal context you're seeing somebody being pro active. kushner said he would be forthcoming and be willing to speak to who investigates. you're seeing when you lawyer up you're a little less forthcoming. >> matt, kushner is keeping jamie gir lick as well as three people mueller hired. some in the kushner camp were worried about that. should they be?...

Which means donald trump is under investigation or will be very soon by the special counsel. so i think those two things are key. and it's why dianne feinstein has really taken this a little bit more aggressively. >> we'll find out. maybe. we'll find out if the president is under investigation at some point. scott, you want to jump in there. but i want to bring laura coates into the conversation with the other giant bit of news which is the president says 100% that he will testify. you know, if he does in fact get called before robert mueller or bring to sit voluntarily before robert mueller, ...

And so what we're doing today by explaining the contents at least according to the russian version of events of that meeting, i think could help explain what the fbi saw and what they were concerned about. >> yeah, that's the question. we have this very sort of neb y -- nebulous term that's been out there, the way they're report it. a person of interest, not a suspect. is your understanding, your reporting here, that there is a link there between the authorities' interest in jared kushner and what you're reporting tonight? >> yeah, i mean there's no question our sources told us that they're in...