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Josh barro, there's our preview of the general election. >> people have been comparing it to the 47% comment. i don't think it is that. first of all, there's an issue of workers who are working part time who would like to go full time. >> to be statistical, the bush campaign is right. there are 6.5 million under employ ed workers. people who would like to work more hours and are not able to. >> i think the right and left would like a stronger economy so that people that would like a full-time job will get one. i would say he set the target of 4% growth that is optimistic. i'd say it is unreali...

Josh barrow there's our preview of the general election. >> people have been comparing it to the 47% comment. i don't think it is that. first of all there's an issue of workers who are working part time who would like to go full time. >> to be statistical, the bush campaign is right. there are 6.5 million under employ ed workers. people who would like to work more hours and are not able to. >> i think the right and left would like a stronger economy so that people that would like a full-time job will get one. i would say he set the target of 4% growth that is optimistic. i'd say it is unrealis...

Is the crisis of long-term unemployment. and as jim says, we have to hit it on all fronts. job creation and work with ceos, but we have to give them support. >> the president also wants to raise the minimum wage. is that a fight he should win, jim? >> yes. again, it's a bit of a distraction. remember, walmart can pay the minimum wage no matter how high it goes. the smaller business guy, it actually is a factor. you don't want to be able to think, i can't start a business. but i don't want to get too caught in the weeds here. minimum wage, these jobless benefits, they do not do anything versus ...

Unemployment. and as jim says, we have to hit it on all fronts. job creation and work with ceos, but we have to give them support. >> the president also wants to raise the minimum wage. is that a fight he should win, jim? >> yes. again, it's a bit of a distraction. remember, walmart can pay the minimum wage no matter how high it goes. the smaller business guy, it actually is a factor. you don't want to be able to think, i can't start a business. but i don't want to get too caught in the weeds here. minimum wage, these jobless benefits, they do not do anything versus getting people in the state...

And we do admit, that the worst legacy of this great recession is the crisis of long-term unemployment. and as jim says, we have to hit it on all fronts. job creation and work with ceos, but we have to give them support. >> the president also wants to raise the minimum wage. is that a fight he should win, jim? >> yes. again, it's a bit of a distraction. remember, walmart can pay the minimum wage no matter how high it goes. the smaller business guy, it actually is a factor. you don't want to be able to think, i can't start a business. but i don't want to get too caught in the weeds here. minimu...