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Whether to arm the rebels, the cia already has teams in libya gathering intelligence on the opposition and helping target air strikes on gadhafi forces. politico's assistant managing editor, jeanne cummings now joins us. this raises a lot of questions and congress is raising those questions today on both sides of the hill. what option as do the president really have, though, other than try to get the intelligence that we need to find out what our forces are like and what they're going to confront there? >> clearly we need more information about who these rebels are, especially in light of the ...

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To rough places and bad places and collect information so that policymakers, the president, the military, the congress can make good decisions. i would be shocked if we're not participating in the collection of information, which is very different than some of the wild speculation i think that's taking place today. and a lot of that circled around, and i think got confused with the public debate about should we or shouldn't we arm the rebels, which are two very separate and distinct things. and of course, i have come out pretty strongly against arming the rebels. >> let's pick up on that, beca...

Setback yesterday when his foreign minister, who was previously his intelligence director, defected. and you can imagine the wealth of information he might be able to share with us, and that means to the confidence of his inner circle when you have nato planes, french and english and american planes overhead securing the rebels from further attack from gadhafi. all of that weighs on the success of this regime, and i think that if we can continue to encourage all of the other ways, minus arming the rebels, mainly because we don't know who they all are yet, i think you can have a removal of gadh...