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Giuliani told politico today that this so-called scope memo should be shared with trump's legal team. he said, quote, "the only document we want to see is the document to give mueller his authority. for a year they haven't shown it to us." a lot to talk about. here with us to do it, daniel goldman, former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, and jennifer rodgers, former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, these days executive director of the columbia law school center for the advancement of public integrity. somewhere preet bharara is saying...

This to be done. do you have any sense on your experience of the justice department as the state of the investigation right now and when it might conclude? >> it's hard to know. these are unique cases. but the fact that in march the questions were transmitted i guess orally and the president's lawyers wrote them down means that by march at least mueller's office was in a position they thought to begin negotiating terms to interview the president. they wouldn't do that until they had everyone else's statements in and lined up. they had a good factual background to what was happening. i think, i...

Who's the reporter who broke this story tonight. in schmidt's story tonight he does give you a little back story in terms of where this comes from, which may give us some hint as to the exact -- i mean, he's not going to talk to us about his sources but it may give us some hint as to where this came from. from the story tonight, mr. mueller has sought for months to question the president. his lawyers have been negotiating terms of an interview out of concern that their client could provide false statements or easily become distracted. four people have pled guilty already to lying to investigat...

Negotiating terms for mueller to interview the president. mueller would have to deliver a deadline as to when his russia investigation will end. what is the likelihood of mr. mueller agreeing to such terms. and if that doesn't work what can president trump's to bees negotiate for him? >> it will be difficult for the attorneys to try to get mueller to agree to a deadline. i think everyone who spoke about robert mueller when he was first brought on said they believe in what he's doing. that's why we are seeing things that may not exactly relate to what we think might be part of the russia invest...

We're in end game because if you look tat people who have been interviewed in this and the recent interviews, the attorney general, looks like steve bannon is getting teed up for an interview. those are the biggest fish in the pool here and as we talked about, mueller doesn't talk about the big fish until the end game. the white house said repeatedly, they want to close this out. move on to other things. if they want to get this over, i would say by the end of february, the president ought to be in the chair because if they're still on negotiating terms there, if you're so willing to talk and ...