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Also to embarrass us because now you have the state department going on tv saying we don't know what's going on. that makes us look like fools and that is something that they do very effectively. >> martha: i can't help but wonder this is sort of a negotiation tool because a lot of these concessions are things the president has been able to tout. they give is this, they give us that. so kim jong un is a leader. he's a young leader. he is surrounded by advisors and people who are perhaps pushing back at this idea to a certain extent and i wonder if some of this isn't just his way, michael, of s...

Threaten our allies in the region. if >> sandra: does is meeting happen? >> lawrence: we don't know. if this guy is unpredictable character. what i will say is this is a different president that is in the white house right now. he is not going to just get some type of iran deal. he is going to want inspections, not going to be any type of self reporting when it comes to north korea and so we will see. i think the president had tough rhetoric going in. he softened it up at the negotiation tool but nobody knows what's going to happen until they actually get in that room and start negotiating thi...