Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130801:21:22:00
To just jack it over to the right a bit? just try that thing? a bit more crazy. >> i don't overestimate it, but how do you define being more conservative? >> shut down the government for -- >> that's not -- that's not being more conservative. look, we did that during the clinton years, were they less conservative? >> let mess tell you -- here's where i see the win/win. you tell me. they shut down the government, default on the debt. they're not paying bills or t-bonds or anything, they're what laughingstock. chinese start pulling it back. they can say, not only do they win the political argume...