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Popular among democrats and that is something that biden is tapping obama put together a c he a ligs that included people of color and a massive turnout of people of color. how do you see his role here? because you do have some progressives who are kind of shying away, maybe not from the man himself, but from some of the policies saying that for example obamacare didn't go far enough, why didn't he push for the public option, all these other issue based things. is it possible to win over the voters that one would need to win the nomination if that is the way you are talking about this presiden...

Uninformed. she needs to be quiet until she knows everything. she's basically saying that when republicans make mistakes in their men it's not a big deal because it's a woman and a democrat, it's sexist somehow, which is absurd. >> this comes after she called ben shapiro, called him out for cat calling her, he's wanting to have a one on one debate. >> on substance. and she called it cat calling. >> remember kamala harris was at net roots saying identity politics. that is the definition of identity politics. the socialists in the bronx, i don't chair what your racial identity is, you, the facts...

States. it's a national security issue. >> dana: if i can switch gears on one thing. because, big picture, democratic politics, i wanted to ask you about, you know, remember, it's the economy, stupid? >> um-huh. >> dana: i think that bears out. but robert samuelson columnist at "the washington post" wrote today economic anxiety is increasinglily economic affliction. no one can increase it poor worries about staying poor. no one can escape i join the crowd own well-being being judged how well their children are doing. i wonder if it's the financial anxiety, stupid, might be a more apt descripti...

People of our country. >> let me pickup on that, you mentioned party bosses. you have been relatively critical of nancy pelosi, the democratic leader. what is your relationship with her like? >> well, i guess it's been better, but this isn't about, this isn't about any one person. this is about a new generation of leaders. it's about a time in our party's history when it's time for a new generation of leadership. and although i don't know who the next leader of our party will be or who the next speaker of the house will be, i have given a lot of thought to the kind of leadership that we want, ...

Governor is the right thing to do. >> and alexandria cortez that upset an establishment democrat in her primary and is stomping for progressives nationwide. >> we don't believe the way forward and the way to win for progressives and democrats is to go moderate. we want candidates that are bold that are visionary and speak to the people. >> now mainstream and the republican national committee called net roots a far left progressive movement that's become a key force in moving the democratic party further left. >> do you think the democratic party has moved to the left or is this just more open ...