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Cycle and the cable chatter, always focused on the next election instead of the next generation. as some of you know, i'm not somebody who spends a lot of time surfing the cable channels, but i'm not completely in the bubble. i have a sense of what the coverage has been, and mostly it's an obsession with what will this mean for the democratic party? megyn: so does he have a point? >> yeah, well, look, he's doing what so many other politicians have done when they get in trouble in the polls. it must be the media's fault. i say this to my conservative friends as well. i mean, the idea that harpi...

Say yay or nay on it and publish it out so the various organizations can distribute it their membership and, of course, to you, the media. it's a sophisticated where you can use the social media and the network media and, of course, our own distribution capabilities through the individual organizations. >> let's talk a little bit about the fringe that you and i have talked about. the people that get you a lot of attention in media that you otherwise wouldn't like. is this going to hem you sort of get rid of some of that? >> well, indeed. jamie radke, who is a leader out of the virginia tea par...

>> greta: does he have any idea how many times we've called him? and saying we are obsessing over things it is bizarre. >> all these rabbit trails were provisions in this bill that people had problems with. if it wasn't for the media discussing these things they would have gone unnoticed. bottom line is one of the reasons this bill fell was because it i was a big government takeover, a lot of money and spending and a lot of little things gave a lot of people a lot of heartburn. >> greta: i'm stunned to have him complain about the media. his team, the democrats they have the white house. they h...

>> greta: senator conrad needs to quit whining and quit hiding. he is slamming the media for its coverage of the health care debate. >> frankly, i think the media have done a grave disservice to the american people for chasing every rabbit of an issue that matters very little to dealing with what has to be done. i'm not talking about -- i'm largely point the finger of blame on network media that has a minute and a half for a story and never have a chance to explain to people, what are the things that really matter to this debate? instead they obsess on things that are complete side issue. >> g...

Explain the bill and he won come on the show. no one has ever said on this show we don't let the person speak. >> i think his attack on the media is misguided, number one. number two, it is misguided because, the democrats are used to being able to feed talking points to the folks on the mainstream media and have them be repeated without question. it's sort of welcome to the world of the rest of washington, d.c.. when you have to go out and earn the public trust by communicating the details of what you do instead of feeding talking points to the folks that can go and parrot whatever you want t...