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You love to share recipes to your friends who love cooking as well. >> legally, there might be something wrong with it. but morally, do you think is there's anything wrong with like -- you're essentially breaking into an information base? >> yes. >> i'm not doing anything. i'm going to go in, look around, see how things work and i'll leave without disturbing anything. would most hackers say that's okay? >> yes. >> it's in the service of knowledge? that's okay? >> okay for most the hackers in our communities. i was lucky. i got into a very big hacker community here in shanghai and met a lot of ...

>> most of professors are way behind the development speed of the communities. >> why? your country is so advanced in so many other ways. why in this area? >> the network problem here in china, we have gfw, the great firewall, and it blocked a lot of important information websites. inside china. and a lot of people, they can't get the cutting-edge technology, which we don't teach in college at all. so the human resource problem and the manpower problem is more and more -- getting more and more serious here in china. >> because everyone's going to the silicon valley? >> they offer better. obvio...

>> in factory. >> quite an accomplishment. >> i didn't go to college. >> you didn't go to college? >> i didn't go to the college. >> why not? >> most of the professors are way behind the development speed of the communities. >> why? your country is so advanced in so many other ways. why in this area? >> the network problem here in china, we have gfw, the great firewall, and it blocked a lot of important information websites. inside china. and a lot of people, they can't get the cutting-edge technology, which we don't teach in college at all. so the human resource problem and the manpower probl...

Young people don't seem as weird or different. they are exactly like previous generations. they are just not allowed to do this stuff. they would like to have the face to face conversation. >> bring it back to blaming the parents. >> blame the adults. we created a world that is claus phobic. look at a kid's life and you don't realize how little time they have autonomy to be by themselves. >> give kids more freedom which is to let them go in the backyard. times are different. what do you mean by freedom today? >> truthfully, i don't have an answer for that. one of the problems is what you said....

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