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Delegations if cambridge, met with them in new york, and it's very hard to get a visa. very hard to get a visa for a north korean official to come to the u.s. and almost impossible to get one to come to d.c. maybe new york. maybe cambridge. never washington. in these last 20 years. so this really tells you it's moving forward. >> andrea, correct me if i'm wrong. kim yong-chol an accused cyber terrorist. sanctioned by this government. should there be concern inside the white house that there is going to be now presumably this picture of donald trump and -- and kim yong-chol forever? >> they are...

Enough and it would involve translators and officials helping to make this conversation to facilitate it so it would not be the same length as if two english speakers were meeting together. factor that in to the timing that we've been watching. quite a sunny day here in washington. so sometimes the window is hard to peer through with our colleagues who are on the south lawn side, and that's the oval office window you've been alluding to. notable when john kelly walked kim yong-chol to the white house they did not take the full colonnade route, which would have walked in to the president's door...

Military intelligence chief for north korea for about seven years. vice chairman of the workers party. top nuclear weapons negotiator. negotiating with the south koreas about two years ago. an indication of his loyalty toy kim jong-un, the bodyguard for the kim family during the '60s and '70s. a guy that's been around power in north korea for a very long time. he has not just the ear of kim jong-un, we are told. he is one of his most trusted senior advisors. he delivered a letter to president trump. he delivered that letter roughly 20 minutes ago. our eyes and ears are on the ground there in w...

Of new york real estate operators of their own. north koreas made a lot of promises in the past too, to a number of previous presidents that they have not lived up to. what we know is, if this summit off again/on again summit does become on again and happens, trump will declare victory. what we need to do looking at it and analyzing it is to recognize that the proof will be in the pudding of that victory and in the monitoring. monitoring that they said was inadequate when it came to deal wig the nuclear deal in iran. how are they going to assure themselves of north korean compliance? >> as we'...

Now the young chairman kim. had military roles, political roles. currently i think vice chairman of the korean workers party. a party run state. so that sort of is a big position. he is supposedly involved in 2010, in the sinking of that south korean ship that killed dozens of korean servicepeople and in the island shelling that year, but i think the most important thing about him is obviously he has the confidence of chairman kim. that's more important than anything else. you see him all the time with him in photos and in videos. and let me conclude by saying i agree absolutely with what andr...