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Social media, chatting with reporters, chatting with news commentators. he is not someone who is engaged in the business of running the country. and i think that's why you see the federal, you know, these federal offices are basically getting hollowed out, people are quitting. like i said, we had a shutdown that yielded absolutely nothing. and i think you're now seeing why. he's more -- it's more important to him what's going on in this television screen right now than what federal officials are doing. >> and michael, what about the point, we don't know who leaked this, but we do know that thi...

Who is simply responding to what he perceives is the issue of his base. and those very conservative news commentators who seem to have tremendous control over his agenda. >> is that why the discussion about the shutdown has been pretty much focussed on the border wall, the rhetoric from the president himself. because often missing from the discussions is the administration's other immigration policy. you have jeff merkley of oregon returning to the southern border, he's going to investigate the death of the 8-year-old on christmas eve who was in border patrol custody. and i know, ma'am, you ha...

Clear. you spent a lot of time and i just -- i want to echo the comments made earlier in this work reviewing all of these documents, texts, interviewing all of these witnesses and i know you and i've heard your testimony and there's no doubt that you know this inspector general's report in detail. lots of people reacted to it, politicians, individuals, news commentators and others. i'm going to ask you for the record specifically your thoughts on one reaction. last friday president trump said, and i quote, i think that the report yesterday may be more importantly than anything it totally exone...

Earlier in this work reviewing all of these documents, texts and interviews these witnesses. i know you, i've heard your testimony and there's no doubt that you know this inspector general's report in detail. lots of people reacted to it. politicians, individuals, news commentators and others. i'm going to ask you for the report specifically, your thoughts on one reaction. last friday president trump said, and i quote, i think that the report yesterday may be more importantly than anything it totally exonerates me, there was no collusion, there was no obstruction and if you read the report you...

Earlier in this work reviewing all these documents, texts, interviewing all these witnesses. i know you and i've heard your testimony and there's no doubt you know this inspector general's report in detail. lots of people reacted to it. politicians, individuals, news commentators and others. i'm going to ask you for the record specifically your thoughts on one reaction. last friday president trump said, and i quote, i think that the report yesterday, maybe more importantly than anything, it toel totally exonerates me. there was no collusion, there was no obstruction, and if you read the report...