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And it's hilarious you were able to articulate that. he is a craftsman. he is the best at being able to craft those moments of sort of these intangible esoteric things and put them together into something that connection people. we try to do the same thing but with a more political, social avenue. if you were to look at our process, he's much more our process than the news is. >> very similar to the way i put my show together. >> i really need to change. >> we have to have the logistics and mechanics of one but the process the material goes through is not a news process. >> it's fact checking....

Baltimore. you do that because untrue things stand out like a sore thumb. >> even though you identify yourself as fake news and having -- built with a fake news process -- >> we don't say fake. fake is wrong. that is a misnomer that we use and it's not news anything. we're commenting on the news. >> i think that you think of it differently but i think a lot of people who watch your show and cable news think of what we do as not being that different which sucks for me because i used to be the mildly amusing person talking like using humor to tell the story of the wasteful f-35 second engine on ...

We will determine what they are. bureaucrats who knew something to about the news process will come in here and demand -- >> it is hiv and health. it is not even that. >> it is equivalent to me of trainers helping to recruit people for obama care that know nothing about the medical profession or trying to -- bureaucrats trying to reengineer the health industry. it is a sense that government is a benign force and that government bureaucrats can know anything and can go in and set standards out of washington. which is a frightening thought. particularly when it is applied to the media. >> i mean...

We will determine what they are. bureaucrats who knew something to about the news process will come in here and demand -- >> it is hiv and health. it is not even that. >> it is equivalent to me of trainers helping to recruit people for obama care that know nothing about the medical profession or trying to -- bureaucrats trying to reengineer the health industry. it is a sense that government i government bureaucrats can know anything and can go in and set standards out of washington. which is a frightening thought. particularly when it is applied to the media. >> i mean, 78 pages, this is obvio...