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And they are then pulled out of those jobs, disrupting the economic order of that job and then disrupting the economic viability of their families. >> absolutely. i mean, i asked all of the women i spoke to who had been in the united states and then were picked up, were detained by i.c.e. one of the women was obtained when she went into i.c.e. to do her regular check-in and she was then taken to a facility. she actually had been checking in for months and at one of her check-ins she was detained and taken to the facility. how disruptive this is to their family and local economy. one of the wom...

Viability of their families. >> absolutely. i mean, i asked all of the women i spoke to who had been in the united states and then were picked up, were detained by i.c.e. one of the women was obtained when she went into i.c.e. to do her regular check-in and she was then taken to a facility. she actually had been checking in for months and at one of her check-i check-ins she was detained and taken to the facility. how disruptive this is to their family and local economy. one of the women has four children, all u.s. citizens, described how her holdest daughter dropped out of college in her final...

Of who's in charge of what, and one of the things you're looking at okay who is actually in charge of the detention of this person, who decides, where is that decision made, who makes that decision and why is it this person. what did you discover about that? >> this was one of the most surprising parts of the visit for me. as a law professor i took immigration law in law school. i did clinical work, some pro bono work on unaccompanied minors 20 plus years ago. so at the detention facility run by i.c.e. one of the questions i asked, i met with four women and they would all like to be released b...

Sweeping in a broader section of the public they are entitled to. a lot of innocent people get targeted and that'll caught on law enforcement. >> that kind of people who apply for driver's licenses, they don't know they can be turning their picture over into i.c.e. or the fbi. could this be conducting -- >> why would we allow it? because weighing the public's safety benefits of having people's driver's license farrofa far out weighs any desires of i.c.e. one of the things we said was, this is not going to be used for federal deportation purposes. that's not what the state is interested in. the...

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