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Wrong, it's double down. and people see it as strength in him as opposed to just gross deception. why? >> because i think manner and personality often matters more than the content of what one is saying. so you can be entirely truthful but sound like you're a lawyer, that you're hedging your words, even though that's because you're thinking about how to be honest, and you seem more deceptive deceptive than if you're a guy that blurts out lies incessantly, which is what he does. so he's mastered this art of sounding authentic while saying almost nothing that is authentic. >> he doesn't have to ...

Shaken it up with untruth. >> but that's what people liked about him. people have said misdiagnosed early on, some people see him as an antidote. no, they didn't, they saw him as a virus. something to inject into the corpus of politics and let him go in there and make them sick. beat them at their own game. and they take some pleasure out of it. what i don't get, daniel, and i do not envy your task, he lies when he doesn't need to. he lies when the truth is more than enough for him. and that's got to be a different dynamic than what you're used to seeing. >> it is. that's one of the things tha...

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He understands how to exploit the situation. he has made the conduct of the press the issue instead of the conduct of the president of the united states. richard nixon tried it, did not succeed at it. he succeeded at it. imagine, in the same week that the world is watching what the saudis are doing in regard to the murder of a journalist, he is praising, at a rally in montana, a congressional candidate for body slamming a reporter. and at the same time reverting once again to the whole notion of the press as the enemy of the people with all of its echos of totalitarianism, of terror, of tyrant...

>> because i lose everything. now i won't. i have the chip in my arm. i got one in my dog. all right. i got togo. >> listen. before you go, the former director of national intelligence, james clapper, is going to be on. also i think this is a big story. we keep talking about the border crisis. the biggest story, voter suppression. that's what we're going to focus on this hour. >> truostrong, don. how many of you are old enough to remember when president trump and ted cruz were the bain of each other's existences. now they're bffs. love fest in texas. what a turnaround. people are shocked. no...