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Legalized and the family separation. republicans think i.c.e. and the abolition of i.c.e. is an issue for them. who gets the upper hand here? >> well, i think for the last decade and a half or so, the issue has worked for the democrats. and i think there's a lot of suspicion that president obama for example as a senator and as president preferred to have the issue, in other words, accusing republicans of being racist and so forth than to have a resolution. i thought earlier this year that the failure to get something done on dreamers, which is sort of the easiest part of the equation because t...

Legalized and the family separation. republicans think i.c.e. and the abolition of i.c.e. is an issue for them. who gets the upper hand here? >> well, i think for the last decade and a half or so, the issue has worked for the democrats. and i think there's a lot of suspicion that president obama for example as a senator and as president preferred to have the issue, in other words, accusing republicans of being racist and so forth than to have a resolution. i thought earlier this year that the failure to get something done on dreamers, which is sort of the easiest part of the equation because t...

>> no, but you are seeing -- democrats are now trying to move back in line, not supporting the position, trying not to. and you've got republicans in the administration rushing to meet this deadline and essentially going back to the previous policy, which some people call catch and release. theoretically we are back to the status quo. you would think that might put us back in a position where you would have some sort of immigration compromise, but congress is so dysfunctional and tribal now it's never going to happen. >> bret: it does seem like a long way off. there's no way before the midterm...

Administration did to those children. >> i am curious what you think and sort of if you've done -- if you've had whiplash here. yesterday at that hearing you had republicans trashing law enforcement and you had democrats standing up for the fbi and the rule of law. you know, the characterization of both parties, you know, is -- and i think even cedric richmond said as an african-american man it's not always easy to defend the fbi. >> yeah. and i hope that voters will remember this when republicans in 2018, 2020 try to cast themselves as the law enforcement party, will remember all the things t...

Cross every day between juarez and el paso. expedited screening. most, if not all of these students come from juarez, go into el paso and literally go to school every single day. >> for these students what they were doing is as normal as standing in the cafeteria line. >> she showed her student i.d. and birth certificate. you're used to this process? >> all the students we met were american citizens. >> this is quite a process to go through, guys, just to go to school. >> most of their parents weren't. this student told us her parents moved to juarez last year after living in the u.s. her enti...