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That more of them for the first time since the great depression, more of them were closing than opening -- >> what does that have to do with race? >> nfib -- because actually the biggest generator and fastest grower of small businesses, guess what? hispanic women. the biggest recipient of jobs which comes from small businesses are going to be those that are disproportionately unemployed, blacks and hispanics. i prefer to focus on policy, not color coding in the white house. >> right. but niger, let's be honest. that's convenient for you in this case because he doesn't have any black senior sta...

Hispanic women. the biggest recipient of jobs which comes from small businesses are going to be those that are disproportionately unemployed, blacks and hispanics. i prefer to focus on policy, not color coding in the white house. >> right. but niger, let's be honest. that's convenient for you in this case because he doesn't have any black senior staff members. and the reason you -- >> i'm glad he didn't have one anymore. in particular. >> another piece of proof of him only having the best people around him, right? we were promised only the best. and wilbur ross, by the way, is not a latino. so...