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Than i am. >> does that annoy you that the queen of all media is worth more than you? >> yeah. oprah was in syndication and she took chances and i admire that. i don't know why, it somehow bothers me that her career has been based on taking phil donahue's format and doing a retread. but that's okay. people love her. and she deserves every penny. performers deserve to be paid if they have the audience. nobody's doing charity here. >> jay leno said about you when you made that move, now you don't really hear about howard stern and that was a big mistake -- >> jay is insane and jay is a crook. he...

>> does that annoy you that the queen of all media is worth more than you? >> yeah. oprah was in syndication and she took chances and i admire that. i don't know why, it somehow bothers me that her career has been based on taking phil donahue's format and doing a retread. but that's okay. people love her. and she deserves every penny. performers deserve to be paid if they have the audience. nobody's doing charity here. >> jay leno said about you when you made that move, now you don't really hear about howard stern and that was a big maub -- >> jay is insane and jay is a crook. he steals a trem...