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Pretty much ended with george w. bush. donald trump is a parody, a nightmare version of a republican kingmaker. this is the opposite of a smoke-filled room. this is the opposite of the way the republican party used to operate. and i'll tell you what, donald trump has another interest here, i think. he wants to sow as much chaos as possible in the off-chance, as silly as it may sound, that it somehow may rebound to his benefit, in a third party candidate or whatever. he benefits from situations of chaos. he's the master of chaos. he's the master of chaos. and people like newt gingrich, desperat...

Spokesman for huntsman responded and said, "you'll be surprised to find that it's mr. trump who's not telling the truth here. we never requested a meeting. we are focused on issues that matter, not presidential apprentices." i guess it is the republican campaign. i guess newt is surging. and howard, we have to cover it. but this has become a desperate trail route to the white house that you have to go through trump tower. it is a -- it's a tower heist. it's a heist of the republican nominating process. >> it's a parody of the way republicans used to run things. they used to have a process, the...