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$45 copay for primary care and savings over $5,000. and, you know, what strikes me here, though, clearly this woman had no idea either that the exchange existed that on the exchanges there are subsidies to help make sure that you get something -- you get good coverage, not the junk coverage like jared and jonathan have been talking about and probably end up at a better price. >> oh yeah. this is what we're seeing, karen, is that this is all about the noise machine. this isn't about facts. you know? this is all about the noise machine, whether it's this narrative that's being put out that regul...

>> we kind of just drove around the city, did all the usual philadelphia tourist things. >> when max and his family return to their hotel at night, there's a wedding taking place. >> as we were walking into hotel, there was a sign outside that said, you know, welcome, wedding guests. we saw some people around dressed fancy. >> when the schultz family turns in for the night, the wedding guests continue to party on the floor below. >> the wedding party had been going on kind of all night. we've been hearing them yell, yell and shout and it sounds like you're having a good time. but i realize, yo...

Philadelphia, pennsylvania. max schultz of harrisburg is celebrating his 15th birthday in the city of brotherly love. >> we kind of just drove around the city, did all the usual philadelphia tourist things. >> when max and his family return to their hotel at night, there's a wedding taking place. >> as we were walking into hotel, there was a sign outside that said, you know, welcome, wedding guests. we saw some people around dressed fancy. >> when the schultz family turns in for the night, the wedding guests continue to party on the floor below. >> the wedding party had been going on kind of a...

Dement demented, it is now the case that they are all just all in on this. i mean, isn't that whatever fissures you saw are starting to dissolve, as far as i can tell, everyone is falling in line. all those folks, the entire right wing noise machine, all are behind this strategy. >> yeah. we've been all day at the huffington post counting the number of house republicans who are willing to vote for a so-called clean cr, pan we're up to 20, but it's a difference between sort of what they're saying in the corridors and actually going in there and standing up to ted cruz and the tea party. and it'...

Buffoon. no minds are being changed. so he's not going to win any new listeners. the game is to get people who are already listening to listen more consecutive days per week. so it's co dependence. ted cruz and rush limbaugh validate each other. >> and the lies are out there. unfortunately, the right wing noise machine has been pretty successful in confusing the american public, jesse. 62% of americans are still confused about the health care law. as a activist, as a protester, how do you combat this, jesse? >> well, i think a big part is you have to tell the truth. that's a necessity. but you...