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Agreements like this to have punitive measures to punish countries for non-enforcement. that was never in the cards. you could never have gotten that from 195 currents all of whom have to agree. what we do have, though, is a legally blinding transparency regime which has requirements for all countries, developed and developing, to put forward their -- to do reporting on their inventories and the measures they take to realize their targets and to have a strict review of those efforts through expert teams as well as peer review. so you've got a system for the first time that will apply to all co...

Negotiation going bit by bit, year by year, to get to the place we are now. and as you said, this is an historic and enormously important agreement. >> so there's been a range of reactions and there's been a split among folks who sort of follow this, particularly sort of climate activists. a lot of them are praising it and saying it's great. a lot of them saying it does too little. a lot of them worried about essentially enforceability. my understanding is countries come up with their own pledges, those pledges are public and they can be held to by sort of peer pressure and shaming. but where ...

Countries for non-enforcement. that was never in the cards. you couldn't have gotten that from 195 currents all of whom have to agree. what we do have, though, is a legally blinding transparency regime which has requirements for all countries, developed and developing, to put forward -- to do reporting on their inventories and the measures they take to realize their targets and to have a strict review of those efforts through expert teams as well as peer review. so you've got a system for the first time that will apply to all countries and that will hold people to account. and that's important...

The black community and the black child and this country are facing one of the worst crisis in terms of backwards mobility, backwards actions in the reconstruction area. if you look at massive incarceration at the pipeline, look at the job market and the non-enforcement of very basic rights, look at voter suppression, this is a dangerous time with racism here we need to deal with. >> in fact, we are going to look at the issues and unemployment as we go on later in the show, but first we are going to talk about the issue of military sexual assault. the say it has handled the way the controversy...

With, let's say, china and russia agreeing to the toughest u.n. sanctions ever? would that actually lead to any resolution here? >> well, those sanctions that were adopted on the monday -- julie: right. >> -- which is resolution 2375, yes, they were the strictest of the nine set of sanctions, but they're certainly not strict enough. the real problem is enforcement. because we know that china has busted the first seven set of sakss, it's probably going -- sanctions, it's probably going to ignore the eighth and clearly the last one built really to be defeat by non-enforcement because they're jus...