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Threatened by that behavior if it turns out that the lawyers in new york decide that he should be disbarred. but i think that michael avenatti outmaneuvered michael cohen because he was able to i think trigger the president to admit that he didn't know anything about the payment, which set up the raid for monday because based on reporting, it's those comments the president made late last week that triggered the raid on monday. >> we don't know what triggered the raid -- >> based on reporting. >> mueller's investigation is for a year now. there's probably things we don't -- haven't even talked ...

Cohen is in a world of hurt because if not mueller, at least rosenstein is going to be worried about some of the overall political consequence of where mueller goes. not so, the southern district of new york. they famously take no quarter, and cohen is now in their clutches. he's there for the long run. it's not going away even if mueller were to be fired tomorrow. that investigation now sits with them and stays with them. >> david jolly, i'd like you to pull back the lens a little bit and just tell me what it tells you about this president, that when sitting with his war cabinet ostensibly to...

Not, it's really not a question that his lawyers can be negotiating, and especially when they're attacking mueller at the same time as they're negotiating with him. >> when you read the reporting, and you really do kind of do have to set aside of your day every day to read the journalism and then you need to read a second wave every night. when you read that the mueller attorneys report back there they're really honing in on the flynn and comey dismissals and that that was what they brought back to the white house, what does that tell you about the mueller investigation? >> well, that could me...

Same time as they're negotiating with him. >> when you read the reporting, and you really do kind of do have to set aside of your day every day to read the journalism and then you need to read a second wave every night. when you read that the mueller attorneys report back there they're really honing in on the flynn and comey dismissals and that that was what they brought back to the white house, what does that tell you about the mueller investigation? >> well, that could mean that they're looking at obstruction because they're focusing on the actions that happened while he was in the white hou...

On a time that's convenient so that the business of our government can continue, but in terms of whether it happens or not, it's really not a question that his lawyers can be negotiating, and especially when they're attacking mueller at the same time as they're negotiating with him. >> when you read the reporting, and you really do kind of do have to set aside of your day every day to read the journalism and then you need to read a second wave every night. when you read that the mueller attorneys report back there they're really honing in on the flynn and comey dismissals and that that was wha...