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And dandana, you can get in on s as well. let's go with the theory that trump flames out and that joe scarborough talks about. set that aside. look at ben carson, if we're picking among the outsiders. carson and fiorina. and then you still have marco rubio who the establishment still could settle behind, and that still leaves jeb bush at third. >> it does except that marco rubio and jeb bush are in a statistical dead heat. it's within the margin of error. and so anything -- >> but one is trending up, one is trending down. >> that's fair. that's fair. we saw that with mccain, but mccain still c...

Something. what does it tell you? >> well, it seems that what was happening here is they were lying under oath in the bankruptcy proceeding according to the allegations and the indictment and they picked up on the fact that there was a criminal investigation and they decided to pull back. >> yeah. they thought that would save them. >> yeah. that tells me they knew the fed wrg onto them. you don't want the feds onto you. >> bravo has a terrific show here. they have a terrific franchise. >> i don't know. >> don't use terrific. money maker. they're victims here too. you can't believe that -- >> a...

Something. what does it tell you? >> well, it seems that what was happening here is they were lying under oath in the bankruptcy proceeding according to the allegations and the indictment and they picked up on the fact that there was a criminal investigation and they decided to pull back. >> yeah. they thought that would save them. >> yeah. that tells me they knew the fed wrg onto them. you don't want the feds onto you. >> bravo has a terrific show here. they have a terrific franchise. >> i don't know. >> don't use terrific. money maker. they're victims here too. you can't believe that -- >> a...

Something. what does it tell you? >> well, it seems that what was happening here is they were lying under oath in the bankruptcy proceeding according to the allegations and the indictment and they picked up on the fact that there was a criminal investigation and they decided to pull back. >> yeah. they thought that would save them. >> yeah. that tells me they knew the fed wrg onto them. you don't want the feds onto you. >> bravo has a terrific show here. they have a terrific franchise. >> i don't know. >> don't use terrific. money maker. they're victims here too. you can't believe that -- >> a...

It involves our right to life, right to liberty. we ought to be able to keep the fruits of our labor. understand property rights. understand contract rights. we ought to understand what what sound money is about and defense needs. the bully pulpit we need, we need to defend liberty. >> all right. defend liberty and -- >> and liberty. [ laughter ] >> thank you. we'll take another break here. we'll be back with closing moments right after this. -on's . more people do that, security would be like -- there's no charge for the bag. thanks. i know a quiet little place where we can get some work done...