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This feels to me like this is emboldening more people to do these kinds of actions because, in a way, he is implicitly justifying this behavior. he, saying we'll understand why they are mad. although i don't agree with their methods. >> that's right, zerlina. two things. moe broke, you are not making -- things better. if you're thinking of the safety of americans, you would not make the statement you made today. which is essentially having it both. ways he saying, this is an incident where i'm worried about police at the capitol but at the same way i understand the justifications. well, whenev...

To say, this is about what's happening in the united states. it's not about ukraine. and, please, let us stay out of this situation. >> josh, you've been to the headquarters of burisma. vindman mentioned burisma, the gas company, in his testimony. it has not been the focus of a great deal of attention but this is a natural -- gas company, natural gas company, on which hunter biden sat on the board. how is this company responding to all of -- to being in the center of this news? >> yeah. i think it's fair to say that just a few weeks ago, no one in the united states really had heard of burisma....

Leaks. sometimes they're true, sometimes they're half true, sometimes they're completely false, but every single time whoever is leaking it has an agenda. >> i do know that president trump was burned earlier by leaks of other private conversations so i can certainly understand his frustration from that standpoint. but you said it earlier, this is not a traditional president. he has unorthodox means but he is president of the united states. it's up to him as to who he wants to read into his conversations with world leaders. that's just the basic fact. >> tiffany cross, do you know what i didn't...

Which makes him feel like he's going to get better. he is going through chemo, radiation, of course these have very harsh treatments, he has wall street coming out so it's going to take time away from all of that, it's not going to be easy burks he's going into it with the presumption that he's going to get better. there was a smoking problem, but he's got his wife to support. it hasn't been an easy year, his son was in and out of rehab. we have had some high points as well with his career. so, you know, it's been an up and down year for michael. >> we wish him a quick recovery obviously from ...

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