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To tell you that he thought trayvon martin -- i know he wasn't calling him trayvon martin. i think he referred to him as the guy or whatever. might try to get up again, so after putting his gun back in the holster, he jumped on top of trayvon martin and pinned him down, correct? >> correct. >> and then he said a man approached him out of the darkness. >> the first man was not a police officer. the second was. >> and do you recall also that what he's describing in terms of the first contact that he had out there when he was calling the nonemergency number that he said we need you to get to a pl...

>> do you recall hearing that in terms of investigator singleton asking him, the defendant, about what was going on and he's stating, as he stated there, that they always get away? >> yes, sir. >> did you follow that? >> yes. >> didn't she say that to the nonemergency operator also, but he used more colorful language? [ muted ] within minutes of the actual shooting, weren't they? >> yes, they were. >> i called before and police had come out, but these guys know the neighborhood very well and cut in between buildings. >> you're saying these guys. who are these guys? >> the people committing the...

>> yes, sir. >> mr. zimmerman said? >> words along -- >> he said, yes, right? he said, wait a minute, were you following him? in the interview -- which was yes, right? >> in one of the interviews. >> he acknowledged to you that he was following him at one point, correct? >> yes, sir. >> anything wrong with following somebody like that? >> that -- >> let me ask it this way. anything illegal. >> i'm sorry, i'll let him answer that one. >> repeat it please. >> anything -- did you think that there was anything wrong with him following him to see where he was going? >> legally speaking, no. >> okay...

>> my question is on behalf the defendant, defense counsel, asked you questions about anger and disdain and anger and ill will. do you remember him asking you questions about that? >> somewhat, yes, sir. >> i'll first play the nonemergency call the defendant made. >> [ bleep ] they always get away. >> is that something you would use in reference to somebody that you're going to invite over for dinner? would you call them these [ bleep ]s? >> no, sir, i would not. >> does that seem to you like a friendly comment about somebody else? >> no, sir, it's not. >> jean, why is the language that zimmer...

Point saying that he went to look for an address and there were no addresses to the left because those were the back of the buildings. do you recall that? >> yes, sir. >> and i'm going to try to key to this point specifically, but do you recall -- >> i think i told the operator -- >> i'm sorry. >> he said are you following -- >> for a street sign. >> right. >> so i got out of my car and i started walking. >> go ahead. i was still on the phone with nonemergency, and i started walking. >> okay. >> this way. because i didn't see a street sign here, but i knew if i went