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Putting in a new attorney general who could fire bob mueller because he wouldn't be recused the russia investigation. all the swirl taints any of the policy moves he makes in the policy area. >> charlie you've been at this a while have you ever seen a tempo or volume of leaks like this. >> everything i just said notwithstanding there is no doubt that we have been through through an avenue laj -- avalanche of leaks. part of that due to which faction is mad at hue. that is not illegal. that's just ordinary information come out without -- not through official channels but doesn't implicate the la...

Information about -- information that was gathered through surveillance or transcripts of presidential phone calls and in ways that is extraordinary that we wouldn't see in a normal washington environment with a normal president and a normal give or take of politics. it seems to be part of the froth we're in right now. and i think one of the things people who do national security for a living are concerned about at some point beyond donald trump when normalcy returns to washington will the norms have been destroyed in terms of what gets put out in the public routinely and what does not. >> car...

About. so i think we need to kind of divorce ourselves from this notion that people in the midwest and people in quote unquote real america are in the concerned with this story. there is a lot of us who are. >> our great thanks again on a friday night in august for a fantastic conversation. colleen mccain nelson, jamaul smith one of the prouder graduates from this shop. thank you for joining us. we'll check in with you we'd like to do that. coming up after one more break, donald trump is open about his love for generals. but can the generals around him bring order to washington and specificall...

About. so i think we need to kind of divorce ourselves from this notion that people in the mid-west and people in quote unquote real america are in the concerned with this story. there is a lot of us who are. >> our great thanks again on a friday night in august or a fantastic conversation. colleen mccain nelson, jamauls smith one of the prouder graduates from this shop. thank you for joining us. we'll check in with you we'd like to do that. coming up after one more break, donald trump is open about his love for generals. but can the generals around him bring order to washington and specifical...

What he was talking about today, federal employees or the end user or the raw dat that is leaked the-free press or the federal worker. >> he came at the press and the intelligence community workforce. in the clip you played a second ago, he assumes that it's the intelligence community that's leaking all of this information. and this president and this white house unfortunately they've really politicized the issue of leaks. there is different kinds of leaks. there is leaks of classified information which is mostly what the attorney general was talking about. but then there is leaks what you mig...