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You can see versus you can't see. here is what they can do. they can say here are the procedures we want to go through. the department justice can. rod rosenstein's staff. not him personally but their staff can say you can come over, view the documents, no note-taking. you can only read them and we can discuss them. but there is no note-taking and you can't have copies. >> melissa: but let me challenge that. >> that solves the problem. >> melissa: they are serious people as you say but they are also political people and viewing it for a political benefit. at least at some time. that is what he...

Questions are going to occur to us all evening long, of course. was note-taking allowed on the part of mr. dowd and his co-counsel, or was this all something they couldn't wait to get outside the room and spew it onto paper to the best of all their recollection? >> no. it's our understanding that note-taking was allowed. this isn't the s.a.t.s. i think you're allowed to come in and take notes in that kind of situation. i think that was the point of the meeting. the point was to get across to them, here are the topics we want to talk about to give them sort of a fresh start on this type and pre...

And i was really struck, as mike and i pored through these today and tried to both write them out and provide that kind of context, we were really struck by the fact that some of these were obvious as you said. the trump tower meeting, that was a no-brainer. but some of these, especially at the end, they really signal that bob mueller has not closed the door on the question of coordination between the trump campaign and russian officials. he has more questions that he wants answered. he's obviously not fully satisfied with what he's learned about interviewing former campaign officials, reading...

Eric holder, jim comey, i've always found andy to be not only a trustworthy individual but a man of honor and integrity. and i think it can't be said enough about that. >> i want to read you one of the many tweets of our president over the weekend about mccabe and specifically mccabe shares with comey and some of you know reflexively, and that's note taking, contemporaneously dictating notes to file. the president kind of expressed doubt -- spent very little time with andrew mccabe but he never

For a number of years on the highest level of the fbi and what people don't understand in those jobs as you pointed out when he was the assistant director of counterterrorism and i was the assistant director of counterintelligence and we were both assistant director of operations, you split the job and he was running one side of the fbi and i was running the other. whether it was meetings with eric holder, jim comey, i've always found andy to be not only a trustworthy individual but a man of honor and integrity. and i think it can't be said enough about that. >> i want to read you one of the m...