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Trump do not consider any of these people anywhere close to them and that's one of the reasons why -- >> that coming from him, that's pretty rich. >> well, i don't think it's rich. i think if you look at steve bannon, there is a lot of people that tried to turn him into a white nationalists and they played their hand and people did this during the campaign. people were trying to imply the president was a racist or steve bannon was the core of the white supremacists and they overplayed that. and i think what you heard him say there is what he truly believes. the majority of conservatives think ...

Said and what he said -- >> he said two things, right, mark? he said i denounce these groups but everyone -- >> but he was correct, when he was forced to clarify what he's saying, he said -- of course; i did denounce these things. what they're seeing, though, and what the neo-nazis or the skin heads or kkk is seeing is they're seeing donald trump as somebody who is validating their message right now and to the point that they're not carrying big big torches, that they're recruiting on college campuses, that is what should be concerning to all of us right now. >> great to see you. concerning, a...

4,000 to 5,000 documents released deal with the health care reform effort of 1993. some of the interesting nuggets include john dingle, the congressman from michigan talking about his fears as early as april 2009. this was becoming too burdensome for lawmakers and talk about from hilary clinton's staff in the east wing about outreach to media. if we are owl out there consistently, we can erode the notion of hilary being in a bunker mentality. they are telling hilary not to be defensive. another thing having to do with the lawmakers in august. this might sound familiar. this is 1993 and not 200...

In terms of background, mental problems, he received treatment from va twice we know of, once in august, past august and earlier than that in texas complaining of hearing voices, symptoms of paranoia. he was treated by the va. in terms of his run-ins with law enforcement, three of them in washington state, georgia and texas. but none of them resulted -- none of these would have created a court record. he was never convicted. all these things were relatively minor things even though two involved handguns, the run-ins with the law. none were convictions so he wouldn't have been ineligible of buy...

Attacks in benghazi. he also touts chuck hagel as defense secretary. nothing disqualifying but hasn't made a defense choice yet. he says failure to reach a fiscal deal would hurt the markets. and, as we've been talking about, the president wants gun violence measures passed in 2013, something he said in the course of our interview. we'll take another break here. be back in just a moment. [ cheeping ] [ male announcer ] you hear that? that's the sound of car insurance companies these days. here a cheap, there a cheap, everywhere a cheap... you get it. so, what if instead of just a cheap choice,