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And among many white americans the poll numbers said that a lot of white americans felt too much was being made about race. whereas among african-americans the majority felt that this was a discussion that needed to continue and need to be had and not too much was being made about it. it is interesting to me how still to this day often white america and black america sees things through different lenses. >> absolutely, because we have not come to the decision which is so important. you can only come to this decision if you have courage. the decision is i am a human being. nothing human can be ...

Nothing human can be alien to me. until we come to that, whites will really think i'm better than. they're not so bad, but that color doesn't come off. and that hair doesn't straighten out. and so we're not equals. until blacks and whites see each other as brother and sister, we will not have parody. it's very clear. >> and you don't believe that there is true equality yet? >> oh, i know there isn't. and you know there isn't. and everybody who hears you knows there isn't. and yet this is what we have to have. the only thing is, mr. cooper, people have to develop courage. it is most important o...

Through different lenses. >> absolutely. because we have not come to the decision, which is so important, that you can only come to this decision if you have courage. the decision is, i am a human being. nothing human can be alien to me. until we come to that, whites will really think i'm better than. they're not so bad, but that color doesn't come off. and that hair doesn't straighten out. and so we're not equals. until blacks and whites see each other as brother and sister, we will not have parody. it's very clear. >> and you don't believe that there is true equality yet? >> oh, i know there...

That's you nit wit. you should say excuse me, just a minute, i won't sit in this room when people are being assailed. those are human beings and i'm a human being. i have to pick up for i must support this person. you say he's too skinny, fat, thin, stupid, bad teeth. i mean, wait a minute. the statement is i am a human being. nothing human can be alien to me. and if you know that, then you have enough -- develop enough courage so that you can stand up for somebody and without -- maybe you don't know it at the time, but you're really standing up for yourself. it's the human in you. it's the ki...