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Saying with how michael cohen is reacting to trump now. you saddle up with somebody who is willing to compromise their principles. kavanagh has walked back places where he has been prior on presidential powers from when he worked for ken starr. if you side with someone who is willing to compromise their principles, there's no telling what kavanagh is going to do when kavanagh actually is in the supreme court. and perhaps he will revert back to a different kind of viewpoint, but it's just -- i think he has picked someone who he thinks is going to side with him. that may not actually be the case...

Supreme court toward trump on cases against him and several democrats have called that a conflict of interest. >> i would suggest that an unindicted coconspirator to a crime should not be in the business of having the ability to appoint someone to a lifetime position on the highest court in our land, a court which invariably would hear the matters that are the subject of this very discussion. >> why was kavanagh chosen? because the thing the president is most obsessed with is the mueller investigation, and kavanagh is the strongest against such an investigation. >> he picked the one guy who ha...

Red line, or if they really want to protect the mueller investigation, any two of them could basically say, look, lawyers on the panel can push back on me. suggest that judge kavanagh, in the interest of the institution of the supreme court, would recuse himself from any of these cases because of the appearance of the conflict of interest. this is going to be a constitutional crisis. it will be a credibly divisive moment. if donald trump has put the swing vote on the court, that will undermine the institution of the supreme court in a very damaging way and i'm guessing that justice roberts wil...

President and his legal team that trump would almost certainly be a target of that probe, if not for mueller's apparent belief that a sitting president cannot be indicted. those issues as well as questions of whether a president can be forced to comply with a subpoena could become the most significant matters on the supreme court docket during trump's presidency. especially if trump's attorney rudy giuliani gets his way. >> if you think they will subpoena, there will be a constitutional fight? >> well, there will be a constitutional fight. we'll win it. >> what happens if -- for example, what ...