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People have to do background checks. that's all the people are asking for. and that's what manchin is being pilloried for. >> we forget that sometimes it used tore the nra supported background checks. it doesn't even represent its own-mile-per-hour, three quarters of whom would like universal background checks. the nra represents and is a lobbying group for gun dealers, period. they're about money. if they found out they could sell more guns by scrapping the second amendment all together, they would do it in an eye blink. it's not ideological, it's about money. >> i noticed there that the way ...

>> yeah, we forget i think sometimes that the nra used to support universal background checks. the nra now not only doesn't represent the american public, 90% of whom would like universal background checks, it doesn't even represent its own membership, 3/4 of whom would like universal background checks. the nra represents and is a lobbying group for gun dealers, period. they're about money. if they found out they could sell more guns by scrapping the second amendment all together, they would do it in an eye blink. it's not ideological, it's about money. >> i noticed there that the way this def...

Something through and they go after some of these guys and they miss, their power is going to be diminished significantly. >> it's so unnecessary for the n nra. they could have said, listen, we supported background checks in '99 and we will support background checks today because when you get a 90/10 issue -- here is the thing. here is the thing. the nra is powerful if the nra has the issues behind them. i was one of these people -- you know this. grover norquist is the most dangerous man in the white house. no, it's not grover but the idea grover has embraced no taxes. the same thing with the...

Universal background checks. i personally don't like that term because i think it exaggerates what the reality is. we're talking about criminal background checks, strengthening what is already in place so that it's fair and balanced for everyone. >> one thing, though, with the senate and dianne feinstein introducing the assault weapons ban, the newly invigorated policy for 2013, there hasn't been a lot of people coalescing around that, so to speak, in washington, d.c. a lot of people trying to put some daylight between themselves and what the senator would want to see. i want to show everybody...

Things of that nature we ought to consider. for instance, i think if you just order, say, 1,000 rounds of ammunition, that ought to trigger some kind of a questioning process just as if you were depositing and withdrawing $10,000 worth of cash in an american bank. there's a limit -- there's a reasonable limit on what you should be able to buy, and without raising suspicion. again, maybe you don't ban 5,000 round purchases but you trigger some kind of quetiinvestigation. >> some kind of question. the nra claims they have 100,000 new members since that horrific shooting in sandy hook. but isn't ...