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Hill." i'm patrick murphy. in president obama's 2011 state of the union address, he called on america's colleges to open their doors to rotc programs and military recruiters. for some this wasn't an easy sell. the nation had been in a decade of controversial wars. "don't ask, don't tell" had recently been repealed. but now rotc programs are back. even at traditionally liberal elite universitys that once so forcefully opposed them. schools like columbia harvard, brown, and uc berkeley. joining me now is tommy sowers a visiting assistant professor at duke university, his alma mater, and now the ...

People. if you need someone to talk, to can you can definitely talk to people and it's sort of mutual trust-building. >> a nice way for people to have discipline as well, exspecially at this young age, it's a formative time. a lot of these rotc programs are thriving in inner city areas where oftentimes there is a lack of a father figure. you have noticed that these leaders for rotc have helped guide young men and women? i can can personally attest to having role models in rotc and both instructures and upper class men when i was a freshmen they can definitely act as these great role models for...

>> it's not patriotism, they're criticizing the people who aren't like them. we don't like little ladies at truck stops and people who listen to country music. >> i think it's a vast majority of professors in the country. >> maybe not today, but -- >> it happens every year, they're anti-war, anti-everything patriotic, they're throwing the rotc programs off campus all over the place. >> what are they so afraid of. >> they're now starting to come back. >> what i'm including -- >> a lot of it was tied to don't ask, don't tell. >> and now what. >> can i ask you, do you want to talk about miley? >>...

The college rotc programs including the one in university of texas where the military turns for future officers. and i have the criticisms of the campus-based rotc programs, but if we draw the officers from colleges, we have to make sure that the colleges look like the country, so chief justice roberts when you consider the pending "fisher versus the university of texas" case, listen to the admirals and the generals with more than 1,200 years of combined service who are trying to tell you something important. if you end affirmative action, you are making our country less secure. surely, that i...

This follows over the summer there was some progress in rotc programs allowed back in to some of the liberal universities that were banned for many years. is this a good idea or not? >> greg: if they use this logic, when they have antidrug experts there, they should have drug dealers there as well. when a college recruiter comes there, have a cult leader. maybe your child wants to join a cult. or sports program, have a couch potato program. this is ridiculous, moral relativism. military recruiters are there because they offer something positive to a person's life. antiwar people are there beca...