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People compete. of course, when you compete, you talk trash, sabotage, step people in the back, you do things like that, but the point is they fight. the best idea he pitched them is whoever gets favor the president will give -- event, got favor so bannon got mad. >> during the transition, the president noticed that and he said he's writing the stuff and let him in and there's chaos and turnover in this guy is a wolf in sheep's clothing -- did you see what i did there? [applause] greg: i don't get it. [laughter] >> but they said they would trust them because they weren't part of the swamp at f...

Now a reporter and have you noticed that this guy, michael, reminds me of someone and do you have a side-by-side? [laughter] i have to defend michael wolf because i think he is good writer and i said this before and i do think that is true because in chaos people say stuff and i use this metaphor on the five yesterday when a sports team is going under transition and they're getting new coaches there are players that are angry and players that will stick around in the players that are angry will be talking crap about the other guy and by the way, you know this happened with the clinton's and ob...

But i was getting my name out there. [laughter] greg: it's true. it's true. and you haven't changed at all. it's spread be on your desk, i'm afraid. >> will now the my desk is that the work other people put their trash on it because they assume i will not notice. greg: yeah, their trash. >> 70% my trash, that 30% is very rude. greg: rob, do you think i think this is helped the media because i call it the ptw, proved wrong effect. you don't want them to have animal so you better yourself. >> their taking advantage of this. they're putting ads in times where in newspapers and they're having fun ...

For doing this kind of stuff and saying yeah, come on over and president trump said he didn't give him access but he loves attention so much that i'm certain he absolutely did but that's like if you liked a guy in he went on a date with him and invited a gossip, lust is also that guys ex-girlfriend, that's how bad this is. greg: i do think that maybe he didn't think about it all the way through, tom, but he's not a politician and this is what happened. >> i think of bannon was friends with the sky. you want to make fun of my hypothesis? >> no, i like this march. i've always wanted to use it in...

There. [laughter] greg: it's true. it's true. and you haven't changed at all. it's spread be on your desk, i'm afraid. >> will now the my desk is that the work other people put their trash on it because they assume i will not notice. greg: yeah, their trash. >> 70% my trash, that 30% is very rude. greg: rob, do you think i think this is helped the media because i call it the ptw, proved wrong effect. you don't want them to have animal so you better yourself. >> their taking advantage of this. they're putting ads in times where in newspapers and they're having fun with it and wish it could be a...