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Again and again. we have also made it clear nuclear war can not be won and should never be fought and nato remains a nuclear alliance and that is part of essential deterrence and defence and may closely monitor what russia does. and so far we have not seen any changes in the russian nuclear posturing, that requires any changes in our posture but we remain vigilant, we monitor closely what they do and we will take the necessary steps to always ensure we have credible deterrence for all allies and again, this is not about provoking conflict, it is about preserving peace, preventing misunderstand...

Going on for a long time, what are your more educated questions. >> first question, what did they over fly. and most important, what type of sensors did they have? we know from pictures of first one that was shot down off of east coast it had the ability to geo locate signals, probably also had optic to see. i would really be curious to know about, because of where it flew over did these balloons also have the ability to detect radio n and more censors to pinpoint where our tragedy inarsenal is located that would be a indication of perhaps changing nuclear posturing in beijing, there has been ...

For one country is clearly an what do you think might yet be at this stage it is quite unclear, russian has responded to the possibility of finland and swedenjoining nato and sweden joining nato negatively. and swedenjoining nato negatively. it and sweden “oining nato negatively._ negatively. it promises retaliation _ negatively. it promises retaliation in _ negatively. it promises retaliation in technicall negatively. it promises i retaliation in technical and military terms and this could take a number of different forms, it is anticipated that could involve cyber attacks, disinformation, ...

Intervention at the highest level if this nuclear posturing goes on. >> the white house has issued a response to this immediately saying, in every step of this conflict, putin as manufactured threats to justify more aggressive actions. he was never under threat from ukraine, or from nato, which is a defensive alliance that will not fight in ukraine. the only reason his forces face a threat today is because they invaded a sovereign country, and one without nuclear weapons. this is yet another escalatory and totally unnecessary step. this is true. there was no threat to russia from ukraine. ther...

Today. >> over the last couple years, putin has been more and more isolated. he's not been in the kremlin for the most part. he's been down at his place in sochi or in his dhaka outside of moscow. when you're an authoritarian leader and you have less and less input, and you're only hearing from people who want to say to the boss, you're right, i think that leads to miscalculation. i think that is what has happened in the case of this invasion in ukraine. >> joining me now, history professor ruth, the author of strongmen, mussolini to the present. your gut on how seriously to take putin's nucle...