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From the word affordable. bill: i think the president used the word obamacare. if it's not affordable, it's a loser. >> she. caller: it affordable 100 times. if you look at the recent rasmussen reports. voters said they are already negatively affected by we have seen the costs of obamacare skyrocket for individuals. that's the reason the president has offered the latest out for individual claiming a hardship. if it was work and was affordable businesses would be given the same opportunity as individual. they have been exempted. now individual are exempted. they are stalling the inevitable and ...

Economy. do you believe we'll see a push to bail out the insurance companies in an election year? >> the obamacare cannot make it. the very thing that you under governor huckabee, that that poor lady that is brain-dead there, who pays for will all of this? how much is it per day? if it were the family to be kept alive, who could say no to them? you couldn't. but now you have the government, they're going to have to allocate these resources and choose who lives and who dies. that's not what the government is there to do. and with obamacare, frankly, it's gist going to collapse under its own wei...

Sebelius made the call, she's testifying here tomorrow. martha: that's really interesting. we're ant to get our first -- about to get our first sense of how good a handle she had on all of this. we'll be going in and out of this. let's go in for a little bit and see what it sounds like. >> the widespread problems of obamacare cannot. almost daily we hear reports of increasing costs, harming job creation and forcing americans off their current plan. these problems can't be fixed through a technical surge or tech surge, and tear not just a glitch in someone's -- they're not just a glitch in some...

We could sometimes, they would say, listen, this law is in place, we can't let the insurance markets collapse like the president has suggested, we need to do something to bolster the law and kind of free all the political considerations. most are publicans will tell you that obamacare cannot be repealed wholly, needs to be tinkered with, needs to be fixed on a bipartisan basis, and i think it, i think, who knows if it will happen, but i think that's what we'll end up happening in the coming months. >> jon: that may be a parallel universe, but we'll see. i like the truth serum suggestion. jake ...

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