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Care? >> absolutely not. you don't take a mom away from her kid. the same way if you were on probation and you have to check in with somebody, a social worker, to me, that's the same thing you do. you talk to them about the diet. you make them write things down like a dietician and maybe you intervene on the kid's behalf. but you can't take the kid and put him in another home. >> let me flip it. i know how you'll answer this. if the child was malnourished, would you take the child away? >> but the child isn't malnourished. >> yeah, but that's -- >> that's definitely abuse. absolutely abuse. >>...

>> absolutely. i mean, everyone knows it's a problem with the lack of concentration in math and science. i agree with gary and agree with governor christie. the unions need to butt out. he's not putting down gym teachers. all he is saying is if math and science teachers do more, they should get paid more. there's nothing wrong with that. >> brenda: jonas, is there? >> you know, this isn't as easy as it sounds. i'm not for the unions but you said the free market, college football coaches make a lot more money than the biology teachers do. so who is adding more value? there's more athletes who m...

Kinds of foods to the cafeteria, there's almost nobody fighting it on the other side. what we've been able to do, i think what jeff's visibility and commitment and just long-time activism on this issue has been able to do is to convince gov n governors and others there's an opportunity here to do something good that's not going to cost anything but get it on the radar screen. >> it's long-term. talking about the kid eating the milky way in the morning, that is setting the stage for a life that is going to be riddled with health care problems, potentially obesity, they develop a taste for the w...

November, arizona december 1st and the governor says you've got to play some of the game. >> alisyn: and we heard that he'd had a lackluster performance and the campaign said at least, by the way, that romney is only commit today one of those and romney seen as having one in the debate and this is rick perry saying don't count me out i'm at the debates. by the end of this i might be a good debater (laughter) >> and explained that well, don't you. he explained that well, he admits i'm not a good debater maybe by the end of this i will be. played it well and tam ps down expectations during this....

Anti-fat. i think it's a challenge for health. i lost weight -- my daughter's with me this morning, and she was the one that helped to -- and my daughter, i think, is a closet republican because she really likes you. >> that's a problem. we'll have to talk to her -- >> the mika fan club. >> you lost a lot of weight. >> i lost 120 pounds. >> how did you do it? >> well, it started, i went on a fast when i went to jail. and i came out, i had realized i could conquer my appetite. most of what we eat is what we think -- >> the al sharpton jailhouse diet. >> what i think we should do is put governor...