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How could donald trump remain so teflon in over six, seven years to a point where he probably if he wants it could run for president again and be the nominee of the party? and i think the question is no one really stood up to him and continues not to stand up to him. and, yes, i think these hearings have been an object lesson what quiet courage and patriotism in telling the truth can look like. but ultimately it stands in contrast to the cowardice and silence we've heard pretty much every step of the way. i think without the republican party donald trump wouldn't be possible. >> for your book ...

Stuff. >> what did you interpret that to mean? >> i understood it to mean that after having seen play out what happens when you convince people that there is a decision to be made in the capitol, legitimately, about who is to be the president and the consequences of that, he was still pushing us to do what he had been asking us to do for the previous two days that that was certifiably crazy. >> he didn't mince words. rubber room stuff, certifiably crazy. what does it tell you that eastman pushed this plan even after a violent mob attacked the capitol? >> well, nothing good. this was a coup in ...

Happens when you convince people that there's a decision to be made about who is to be president, he was pushing us to do what he had been asking us to do for the previous two days, that that was certifiably crazy. >> what does it tell you that he pushed this plan after a violent mob attacked the capitol? >> nothing good. this was a coup in search of a legal theory that never found one close to the constitutional bounds. i think john eastman pushing this is as an object lesson for all young lawyers. you can get too far into a representation that you start of lose track of truth, justice and th...

Particularly china. unless we have hard power in putin's path and we turn what he hopes will be a quick victory into a long and painful one, he will achieve what he wants to achieve and we're going to look embarrassed and project more weakness on the world stage. >> martha: of course, china is watching this. the chinese foreign minister was asked several times at an opportunity to speak a short time ago what he thought about what was going on between ukraine and russia. he didn't want to comment. no doubt they're glad to have this distraction away from what they want to do and perhaps use it a...

Maybe _ they were going to bomb or invade, maybe draw tanks up to the border where _ maybe draw tanks up to the border where i_ maybe draw tanks up to the border where i am — maybe draw tanks up to the border where i am now but it really worried people _ where i am now but it really worried peorrte and — where i am now but it really worried people and had the precise reverse effect _ people and had the precise reverse effect and — people and had the precise reverse effect and so presumably persistent putin wanted. it has encouraged them to think— putin wanted. it has encouraged them to...