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Questioning that mr. trump has provided to mr. mueller. >> interesting. >> all of that could be tied together. the timing is extraordinary. and so, again, without resorting to a report, without another indictment, mr. mueller could be in a position of revealing a lot of information that we would all find very interesting about his investigation in open court. >> from the mueller perspective, it seems his team is so confident of the evidence they have, richard, that they know that manafort is lying. how do you -- how do they know that? >> well, how do we know anything? we know it on the basis o...

About it if the gentlemen are telling the truth. as a 50-year-old man, it is not a comfortable thing to come out and say another man sexually oh midwested me when i was in college. i have a hard time believing these men are lying. jim jordan needs to make a serious accounting for that. not to say it's a conspiracy to bring him down. kailee, you're a lawyer like myself. the law firm has a lot of interests. the question on the table is did jim jordan know and did he do anything to stop it? all objective evidence suggests he probably did know and didn't do anything to stop it. >> but he has state...

Arts major to assess psychologically. i'm prepared as a journalist to look at what he says and say he's a fab you list. he makes stuff up. he doesn't know much. narcissism, my 8-year-old grandson can figure that out. i worry about how this is supposed to happen. >> you have to have susan page, it seems to me, objective evidence, the sort of objective evidence that we do not have and most likely will not have. and is it -- i mean, isn't that the problem when we start talking about the 25th amendment, what jeff said, the difference between physical element. w woodrow wilson has a stroke that mak...

Trump is compliant with rule of law. there's an on-going question about this issue of obstruction of justice certainly. >> what about the tapes. he was asked about that in his appearance outside the white house, he kind of flirted with the answer. he first floated the idea the conversation was taped, now he is saying he won't answer that yet. what if there are tapes, will we ever get there? >> yeah, there's a big question mark about the tapes, he is hedging his bets. there's no way of knowing of course whether there are tapes. clear i think from comey's testimony if there are tapes, he very mu...

Am i demonizing? or is that a fact? i think what we need is to bring the american people together and tell those people that we want a government that works for everybody. that's what i'm trying to do. >> this is your opportunity, what have you got, roey. tell him what you don't like about that? >> i think most studies show that international trade, free-trade agreements, nafta, especially, has a net benefit on the economy. i mean, there are, we have lost a lot of jobs to nafta, but there are now 7 million jobs that rely on nafta. if you scrap nafta, you take those jobs away, too. >> it's not ...