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That's what kept him from knowing whether trump was involved in this. and this is not -- this is not a privileged communication. it's unclear what the privilege issues would be. but what it tells me is that the strategy we're seeing from trump and his allies now of stonewalling, of doing everything they can to aggressively keep information from the house really was just a follow-on to what they did to the mueller investigation. i mean, they essentially took a very aggressive approach there. if this was a typical investigation and i was prosecuting it, i would tell the other side, this appears ...

What they can get in the interim. but what they want, at least what adam schiff has said, is that they don't want anything less than the full report and all of the underlying materials. right? they want to know exactly everything that mueller had to base his decision on. and not only that, they want to know where the other part of the investigation is currently in the justice department. that's the counterintelligence investigation. so you know, there's this kind of cat and mouse game going on where there's exchanges of letters that appear to be escalating. what is unclear to me, though, is wh...

Obstru obstructing this investigation, therefore what? and to me the question hasn't been answered yet, you know, whether they -- they're going to escalate it further than this. and i think, again, going back to what i said earlier, i think the white house knows right now that they can play this out for some time. >> that's got to be the last word. thank you all. i appreciate it. i appreciate it. i've got to run. thank you so much. is president trump speaking and gearing his policies to white men who fear the loss of dominance? that's our big picture tonight. and we'll dig into it next. nothin...

Reveal why president trump's former national security adviser michael flynn proved to be so valuable to robert mueller's russia investigation. there are new details about a voicemail recording from trump's attorney to flynn's lawyer while flynn was cooperating. a judge now ordering a transcript of that voicemail to be released publicly by the end of this month. in just a moment we're going to take a look at what we're learning tonight on that. also we need to tell you about the justice department finally agreeing to let all the members of the house intel committee see a less redacted version o...

The testimony. you know, what is now coming out in the wake of the mueller investigation, though, that was not in the mueller report, it's still hard to know exactly how ultimately significant it would be. we know that what is in the mueller report, we know what the mueller investigation found about what flynn had to say and what he didn't have to say. flynn of course still has to be sentenced. and so i guess it's still like -- it's still unclear whether there's going to be a really significant outcome for anything that kind of comes out in court after the mueller testimony. actually, after th...