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Which i don't think is going to happen. we're probably a matter of weeks away. we could be talking two weeks rather than five weeks away. they have been having these talks for a while now since the first of the year. there's a lot of lawyering going back and forth, but all the momentum is heading in that way. and then once we have that interview, if indeed on the obstruction end mueller is waiting for the president to be interviewed near the very end so he has all his information before he talks to the president, then it could just be another few weeks until mueller actually comes together and...

>> i don't think so. right now you have the president's private lawyer marc kasowitz sort of heading up the response right now. they have had difficulty according to all kinds of sources -- news sources that, you know, filling out that roster, they were trying to put up a war room within the white house. they had difficulty doing that. there are any number of people in washington, d.c. who are qualified and competent to try to make a defense here. and the president hasn't really turned to any of them. so this is another problem that the white house has, it doesn't appear to be equipped to hand...