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Go right ahead. >> i'd also caution you about obstruction. obstruction is a crime with meaning. it has elements. it has case authority. the record does not establish obstruction in this case. what my esteemed colleague said was certainly true. if you accept all of their presumptions, it would be obstruction. but impeachments have to be based on proof, not presumpti s presumptions. that's the problem when you move forward on this abbreviated schedule which has not been explained to me why you want to set the record for the fastest impeachment. fast is not good for impeachment. narrow, fast impe...

About obstruction. obstruction is a crime with meaning. it has elements. it has controlling case authority. the record does not establish obstruction in this case that is what my esteemed colleague said was true. if you accept all of their presumptions, it would be obstruction. but impeachments have to be based on proof, not presumptions. that's the problem when you move towards impeachment on this abbreviated schedule, that has not been explained to me why you want to set the record for the fastest impeachment. fast is not good for impeachme impeachment. narrow fast impeachments have failed. ...

>> okay. i would also caution you about obstruction. obstruction is a crime also with meaning. it has elements. it has controlling case authority. the record does not establish obstruction in this case. that is, what my esteemed colleagues said was certainly true, if you accept all of their presumptions, it would be obstruction. but impeachments have to be based on proof, not presumptions. that's the problem when you move towards impeachment on this abbreviated schedule that has not been explained to me, why you want to set the record for the fastest impeachment. fast is not good for impeachme...

Then that he was lying about it and then admitted it was really russia, which raises the whole obstruction issue. >> there's two scenes in this book that are not together but they in our minds come together. rod rosenstein goes into the white house after tremendous pressure and it's been revealed that he wanted to wear a wire and he's going in and everyone beli believes donald trump is going to fire him. you remind him there was split screen coverage of the kavanaugh confirmation and rosenstein going into the white house. he's not fired. the question is what did rod rosenstein say in the oval ...

But that he lied and admitted it was really russia, which raises the whole obstruction issue. >> there's two scenes that have not together. rod rosenstein has tremendous pressure after it's revealed he wants to wear a wire and you remind us there was split-screen coverage of the kavanaugh conformation. he's not fired. the dwequestion is what did rod rosenstein say in the oval office to keep his job? and the other scene is rod rosenstein standing right there beside bill barr when the mueller report comes out, in edpe effect demolishing the mueller report. >> he started out as a very