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Getting the voters basically more comfortable with this idea. >> julia, again, you cover the men and women who work in and around the justice department. did anything sound like them to you when you heard rudy giuliani say, in effect, i had this assurance from mueller that the obstruction part's going to be -- it's going to be all done by labor day. september 1, we're out of here. >> right. that could not sound further from what we hear from the men and women of the justice department. they keep the time line of investigations under wraps. they would not share that kind of thing with prosecuto...

Academic who teaches in britain. u.s. officials told cnn that the source wasn't iedded in the campaign despite statements from the president and his allies suggesting otherwise. >> for a long time we were told there was some kind of infiltration. i believe if there was an imbedded person, that person cleared us. giuliani also saying during negotiations with mueller's team over the potential interview, investigators say their obstruction probe could wrap up by second first if the president agrees to sit down and answer questions. this as a "times" reports mueller is looking into another controv...

Donald trump tweets every day. his daily, you know, mantra is no collusion, no collusion, whether it's on tax cuts or the trade war. just wrapping up the obstruction probe clearly wouldn't give the president the peace of mind he so desperately seeks. >> right. that's correct. there's two key buckets he's looking in and the key one or not the key one, but the original one is collusion. but trump aides i talk to say -- and this may be true or untrue, it's hard to gauge, but that the president truly in his heart believes that there was no collusion. he is tweeting what is deeply true to him. whet...

So there's no legal way that the president can fire robert -- rosenstein. that's what he means by he's going to take things in own hands. again, he's basically writing his own article of impeachment. but the bet is, it's only an of impeachment if the republican congress at this point stands up and does its constitutional responsibility and again, that's a political question. >> democratic congress some next november. let's go to a couple things. the power of his office. julia, and then to robert. firing rosenstein, pardon some people, executive privilege or otherwise just avoiding any kind of ...

Interesting. but this is a real tense and slightly angry meeting. while they're not yelling at each other, they are warning and threatening each other in legalese. in one, look, you're messing with the president's work. literally he said you're screwing with the president of the united states. and in the other, bob mueller says, look, if you don't want to have him sit down, we can always subpoena him. for both sides, by the way, joe and mika, i think that this is a difficult negative because if this interview doesn't go forward and if there is a subpoena, both sides lose in a way. the presiden...